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3 axis machines are nice for very simple prototype parts but as soon as you need to mill objects from multiple sides with multiple tools this can quickly become a a pretty manual process. A 4/5 axis machine could solve that problem though these are drastically more expensive. If this machine could not only be used for prototyping but also for production at a certain extend it could quickly pay for itself though. | |||
Things to look out for: | |||
* control software future-proof (Linux, open source)? | |||
* replacement parts are affordable and quickly available? | |||
* tool selection (requires expensive special brand/kind)? | |||
=3 Axis Machines= | |||
==Haas Minimill== | |||
http://www.haascnc.com/mt_spec1.asp?id=MINIMILL2&webID=MINI_MILL_VMC#gsc.tab=0 | |||
€ 27.000+ | |||
==Shapeoko 2== | |||
https://www.inventables.com/technologies/desktop-3d-carving-cnc-mill-kit-shapeoko-2 | https://www.inventables.com/technologies/desktop-3d-carving-cnc-mill-kit-shapeoko-2 | ||
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Open Hardware/Free Software | Open Hardware/Free Software | ||
=Sherline= | ==Sherline== | ||
http://www.sherline.com/8540pg.htm | http://www.sherline.com/8540pg.htm | ||
=Pocket NC P5= | ==Othermill== | ||
https://othermachine.co/store/othermill/ | |||
2200$ | |||
==Microproto CNC Mill== | |||
http://www.microproto.com/ | |||
2500$ | |||
==KarlG's "kleine robuste Fräse"== | |||
a compact sturdy 3 axis mill developed by KarlG in the fpv-community.de forum. very precise. To order over pm from KarlG but the list seems to be long... | |||
basic kit 1500€ (no motors, electronic and software) | |||
assembling and calibration 500€ | |||
[http://fpv-community.de/showthread.php?35487-Kleine-robuste-Fr%E4se forum link] (all german) | |||
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y3W1C4840Z8 Video] | |||
=4/5 Axis Machines= | |||
==5axismaker== | |||
http://5axismaker.com | |||
5 axis cnc milling and 5 axis 3d printing | |||
From £5000 (approx. $6300) | |||
==Novakon== | |||
http://novakon.net/bedmills/pulsar/ | |||
Ship from Canada | |||
They seem to have pissed off at least one customer in a major way: http://www.novakoncnc.com | |||
==Haase== | |||
http://www.team-haase.de/zubehoer/drehachsen | |||
mills ranging from consumer to pro range with accessory for 4th axis | |||
==Roland MDX-40A== | |||
http://www.rolanddga.com/products/3d/mdx40/ | |||
Optional 4th axis | |||
$ 13,000 | |||
==Tormach== | |||
apertus° decided to get this one in the end. | |||
http://www.tormach.com/store/index.php?app=ecom&ns=catshow&ref=PCNC770_Mill | |||
$ 7000+ | |||
around 15 - 20 k$ for full package with tool changer and 4th axis. | |||
They also have an injection molding accessory for 800$: | |||
http://www.tormach.com/store/index.php?app=ecom&ns=prodshow&ref=32079 | |||
User Feedback: | |||
*http://www.practicalmachinist.com/vb/cnc-machining/tormach-mill-not-191459/index4.html | |||
*http://www.cnczone.com/forums/tormach-personal-cnc-mill/153360-considering-buying-tormach-pcnc-1100-series-3-a.html | |||
*http://www.cnc-arena.com/en/forum/how-many-emc-linuxcnc-users-here--184364.html | |||
*http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/showthread.php?t=109604 | |||
Problems: | |||
* no European Reseller (we shipped it with DB Schenker to Europe for a bit more than 1000€) | |||
* no CE | |||
* 110V supply for cooling pump, rest is 230V | |||
Interesting analysis of their design decisions : http://www.tormach.com/uploads/11/TD30204_DesignAnalysis-pdf.html | |||
==Charter Oak Automation High-Capacity Square Column CNC Bed Mill== | |||
http://charteroakautomation.com/our-products/cnc-bed-mill | |||
12K$ | |||
==CNC 3040== | |||
http://www.carving-cnc.com/cnc3040-series/cnc-3040z-4d-new-version-router-engraver-drilling-and-milling-machine.html | |||
4 axis option probably from China | |||
$1,049.00 | |||
==Noname== | |||
from China | |||
4 & 5 axis | |||
http://www.ebay.com/itm/4-Axis-CNC-3040-Table-Column-Type-Engraving-Machine-High-pricision-Ball-Screw-/251454573602?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3a8bdc4c22 | |||
==Pocket NC P5== | |||
http://www.pocketnc.com/products/ | http://www.pocketnc.com/products/ | ||
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3500 $ target price | 3500 $ target price | ||
= | ==NS CNC== | ||
5 axis CNCs | |||
different configurations for soft and harder materials - no pricing information on website | |||
http://nscnc.com/mira-x5/ |
Latest revision as of 10:56, 7 November 2016
1 Notes
3 axis machines are nice for very simple prototype parts but as soon as you need to mill objects from multiple sides with multiple tools this can quickly become a a pretty manual process. A 4/5 axis machine could solve that problem though these are drastically more expensive. If this machine could not only be used for prototyping but also for production at a certain extend it could quickly pay for itself though.
Things to look out for:
- control software future-proof (Linux, open source)?
- replacement parts are affordable and quickly available?
- tool selection (requires expensive special brand/kind)?
2 3 Axis Machines
2.1 Haas Minimill
http://www.haascnc.com/mt_spec1.asp?id=MINIMILL2&webID=MINI_MILL_VMC#gsc.tab=0
€ 27.000+
2.2 Shapeoko 2
https://www.inventables.com/technologies/desktop-3d-carving-cnc-mill-kit-shapeoko-2
Full package: € 1061
Open Hardware/Free Software
2.3 Sherline
http://www.sherline.com/8540pg.htm
2.4 Othermill
https://othermachine.co/store/othermill/
2200$
2.5 Microproto CNC Mill
2500$
2.6 KarlG's "kleine robuste Fräse"
a compact sturdy 3 axis mill developed by KarlG in the fpv-community.de forum. very precise. To order over pm from KarlG but the list seems to be long...
basic kit 1500€ (no motors, electronic and software)
assembling and calibration 500€
forum link (all german)
3 4/5 Axis Machines
3.1 5axismaker
5 axis cnc milling and 5 axis 3d printing
From £5000 (approx. $6300)
3.2 Novakon
http://novakon.net/bedmills/pulsar/
Ship from Canada
They seem to have pissed off at least one customer in a major way: http://www.novakoncnc.com
3.3 Haase
http://www.team-haase.de/zubehoer/drehachsen
mills ranging from consumer to pro range with accessory for 4th axis
3.4 Roland MDX-40A
http://www.rolanddga.com/products/3d/mdx40/
Optional 4th axis
$ 13,000
3.5 Tormach
apertus° decided to get this one in the end.
http://www.tormach.com/store/index.php?app=ecom&ns=catshow&ref=PCNC770_Mill
$ 7000+
around 15 - 20 k$ for full package with tool changer and 4th axis.
They also have an injection molding accessory for 800$: http://www.tormach.com/store/index.php?app=ecom&ns=prodshow&ref=32079
User Feedback:
Problems:
- no European Reseller (we shipped it with DB Schenker to Europe for a bit more than 1000€)
- no CE
- 110V supply for cooling pump, rest is 230V
Interesting analysis of their design decisions : http://www.tormach.com/uploads/11/TD30204_DesignAnalysis-pdf.html
3.6 Charter Oak Automation High-Capacity Square Column CNC Bed Mill
http://charteroakautomation.com/our-products/cnc-bed-mill
12K$
3.7 CNC 3040
4 axis option probably from China
$1,049.00
3.8 Noname
from China
4 & 5 axis
3.9 Pocket NC P5
http://www.pocketnc.com/products/
5 axis desktop CNC mill - still awaiting crowd funding campaign launch, no product until 2015
3500 $ target price
3.10 NS CNC
5 axis CNCs
different configurations for soft and harder materials - no pricing information on website